Gay activist group debates homosexuality at Liberty University
KIM RAFF/THE NEWS & ADVANCE
Liberty University students challenge Soulforce members on their beliefs in the courtyard at the school on Wednesday. Members of the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender activist group rallied at Liberty as the first stop of this year’s “Equality Ride.“
The dialogue began slowly.
Five members of the gay activist group Soulforce held hands Wednesday afternoon and stood to face about 50 Liberty University students behind the school’s DeMoss Hall in Lynchburg.
They had just returned from donating five gay-affirming Christian books to the school’s library, and Caitlin MacIntyre invited onlookers to join them in singing “Amazing Grace.”
“No thanks,” one student said.
Across the sidewalk, students paged through Bibles as the hymn’s familiar first verse filled the air.
Liberty student Lawanda Sowell said she was searching for passages to describe her belief that homosexuality is a sin.
“They believe in what they believe because they are blind,” she said.
The song ended, and the two groups stood opposite each other with two different opinions on how to interpret the role of homosexuality and the definition of marriage in the Bible.
Liberty was the first of 15 planned stops at faith-based institutions on Soulforce’s annual Equality Ride, a national bus tour meant to encourage an inviting environment for any on-campus gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender students.
“Nowhere in the Bible does it say, ‘homosexuality is sin,’” said Soulforce member Nicholas Rocco DeFinis.
Liberty student Steven Mosley disagreed.
“This is never affirmed in the Bible, ever,” he countered. “You should not be living like this.”
Soulforce member Danielle Cooper said many things have changed since the days of Jesus.
“Marriage, in terms of how we see it, has come a long, long way,” she said.
Although they disagreed, dialogue was exactly what Soulforce had hoped for, said Jarrett Lucas.
“It has to be open and it has to be honest,” he said. “Ideally, we come together and understand each other before the end of the day — or however long it takes.”
Earlier this week, Liberty officials had said they would not allow the group on campus. When Soulforce members came to the school in 2006, more than 20 were arrested on charges of trespassing after walking onto school property.
“It wasn’t our intention to tell them ahead of time to come on campus,” Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. said Wednesday. “In fact, we told them they couldn’t. But they didn’t cause any incidents, so we didn’t arrest anybody.”
“Most students believe, like my father did, that you should love the sinner, hate the sin, show compassion and try to be a good witness. So that’s what I think our students did today.”
Capt. Al Thomas with the Lynchburg Police Department monitored the assembly from off campus and said the day was incident-free.
In the past couple of weeks, he has facilitated conversations between Soulforce and Liberty as the activist group planned for the event.
“They assured us that this would be a peaceful, nonviolent assembly, and I think that has gone according to plan,” he said Wednesday afternoon.
Liberty junior Erika Green said she was happy to have the chance to speak with the group.
“We’re supposed to love everyone, so it would be wrong to turn them away,” she said.
Katie Higgins, co-director of the Equality Ride, said the group had been in contact with gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students at Liberty who felt that the school community promoted discrimination against them.
Falwell said the school’s code of conduct does not prohibit homosexuality, but it does forbid sexual activity outside of marriage.
“And in order for there to be a marriage in Virginia, it has to be between a man and a woman,” he said earlier this week.
As for the donated books, he said, “Somebody brought them up to my office today, and we have a committee that will decide whether to make them a part of the collection or not.”
After more than an hour of discussion, Soulforce members walked back to their bus and a dozen other Equality Riders who rallied from just outside of campus. Many students joined them. The group is in town until Sunday, and plans a discussion on the role of homosexuality in Christianity today at 11 a.m. at the Starbucks on Wards Road.
Wednesday’s dialogue had begun slowly, but continued as clusters formed here and there along University Boulevard.
Bill Carpenter, director of national actions for Soulforce, looked on with interest.
“We’re just beginning the adventure for this year,” he said.
Reader Reactions
Liberty4all thanks I will do some reading on what freedoms it will cost us. Also if you get a chance read the whole book on Jerry Falwell it is really good!
scrivsand,
good intellectual debate is good. If you have read my posts here you will see why I am AGAINST Gay Marriage. I encourage you to research both sides before drawing a conclusion for yourself. Beyond the fact that God condemns it as sin, it will jeapordize the freedoms set up in our constitution of free speech, freedom of religion. There needs to be moral absolutes in a society!! good chatting with you scrivsand.
Liberty4all I don’t want you to mistake me for an LU or TRBC hater because that is not the case I am aware of the wonderful things that they have done in the community. And one day when I can I would love to finish nursing school there. But I do disagree with their point of view on gay marriage. I loved to watch Dr. Falwell and Jonathon is very good also. But I know that you don’t have to agree with everything a person says to like them. Also thanks for not being one of this people who gets so angry over a discussion it has been nice talking with you.
scrivsand,
I did some research and actually found what you are talking about. Pg. 91 and after in the book describes how Jerry handled protests in TRBC regarding desegregation. That no doubt was a racially charged time in our countries history that transcended into all areas of our society. I was proud to read how Jerry stood on Biblical principle in breaking down racial walls even among some members of TRBC.
Note: there is a difference between allowing a Godly man or woman of any color or race to join a church to that of allowing someone that is practicing homosexuality which the Bible specifically condemns as sin.
t4nymets,
In regards to your comments, I find it difficult to believe that I need to explain a simple and fundamental aspect of science to any person with an education. We are all animals.
“Some animals eat their offspring! Would you call that natural?“
Yes, I would. Many animals eat their young for reasons such as the baby is born deformed and will not survive, or there is not enough food and the baby will die. Is it a hard thing to get your head around? Sure. Yet it occurs and is not considered UN-natural but simply a means of survival for some species in certain situations.
“My dog eats cat feces!“
Hmmm.. this is typically due to poor diet. Your dog is lacking natural enzymes and bacteria. Why do you think some animals and dogs bury prey or a bone? To get it nice and juicy with bacteria. It would make us sick but for them it is a neccesary part of their diet. You should perhaps try a higher quality food. One without corn, wheat, and or any type of meat by product.
As for Voltaire being a racist. Like many people at the time he saw blacks as of an inferior intelligence. Unfortunatly half of Europe saw it that way as well.
And remember at one time Africans were held in high esteem in Europe before Ferdinand retook Spain form the Black Moors and Arabs.
Are you arguing that someone that said something great should be dismissed because they are “bad”? I would like to think I am adult enough to not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Too many men and women in history were either racist, sexist, homophobic, anti semetic, religous wing-nuts, sadistic loons, ...etc etc. Yet some of them said great things.
Here are a few…
“What good fortune for governments that people don’t think.“
Adolf Hitler
Gee that could be applied today to our very own government!
“I cannot live without books.“
Thomas Jefferson
A known slave holder and buggerer.
“Families, it’s where wings take dream.“ George W. Bush
This shows that even a mouth breathing moron can say something idiotic yet beautiful!
But really isn’t this all just common sense?
OR
“Common sense is not so common.“
Voltaire
Cheers!
Liberty4all have you ever read Jerry Falwell his life his legacy? Now the first black family joined in 1968 and there were times we black people could sit in another room and listen by speaker I will have to go back and get you that information this evening. But when I get back I will definatly get that for you. Have a great day!
scrivsand
The Bible does not condone racism, murder, or any sin you spoke of. People throughout history have claimed to do a lot of things in God’s name that were not necessarily Biblical. In regards to your comments about TRBC I don’t know what you are talking about and where you are getting that info from. What proof do you have of that accusation?
Liberty4all Okay I can see where I confused you. This is what I was saying people have said back in the earlier day that God and the Bible said that races should be separated and used this to keep black people out of their church. People have killed their children and said God told them to. People have killed gay people and said that it was God’s will. As you know I am sure the Bible does not promote racism, it wasn’t even until the late 60’s that TRBC allowed black people to join. I am also positive that the Bible dose not condone murder.
Are their any history people here? Homosexuality has been in the church since the first recorded history. I guess that Liberty treats that history the same as the theory of evolution. I tell you what happened one religious leader went to another and said hey let hook up and the other said no you sure are ????? and I am scared. I am going to create a religion that is against homosexuality so that I do not have to participate. That is the story of homosexuality and religion…
Thank you for your time and hope you enjoyed the TRUTH.
P.S. Do not come back and hate on me, just prove me wrong. THANKS
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution…freedom of speech
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
scrivsand,
You lost me on your last comment. Can you please restate what you were trying to say. thanks ![]()
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