Liberty’s marriage proposal

Liberty’s marriage proposal

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Liberty University students Kelly and Tony D’Ambrosio walk down the aisle after getting married this spring at Pate Chapel in the old Thomas Road Baptist Church. The Thomas Road church,  as well as the new sanctuary by the Liberty campus, are popular wedding locations for LU students.

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She started her college career at Liberty University as Kelly Cook.

And graduated Saturday as Kelly D’Ambrosio.

The 21-year-old from Florida leaves LU with more than a degree in broadcasting; she has a spouse, too.

“The thing that brings everyone together is our faith,” said D’Ambrosio, whose husband, Tony, also graduated from Liberty Saturday. “When you get out into the world, (finding that in a partner) is like finding a needle in a haystack.”

Although it is not unusual for students to meet their spouses while in college, what separates Liberty from other secular universities is the extent to which the college encourages students to seek their mates on campus.

Liberty’s student care office provides premarital counseling to hundreds of students each semester. The school regularly pairs male and female dorms for get-acquainted activities. Speakers frequently talk about marriage in front of thousands of students required to attend convocation services.

“I tell parents that it’s a great place for your son or daughter to find (their spouse),” said Liberty Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. “I use that as a recruiting tool. It’s a great place to find a mate.”

His views on marriage come straight from the Bible, and that’s what the school aims to teach students, too.

“Our faculty and campus pastors, they try to instill those values in all of the students. We try to teach the students that the ideal is to not have premarital sex and to be faithful to your spouse throughout your entire life, and that your life will be a whole lot less complicated.”

Dane Emerick, a senior pastor at Liberty, hosts a “celebrating marriage” group workshop that draws 50 to 60 couples, mostly engaged, every semester.

The group meets weeknights for seven, one-hour sessions on topics such as communication, conflict, finances and sexuality.

“I think what makes us different is the fact that the blueprint we use comes from the Bible,” he said.

He pulls material on love, romance and courtship from books of the Bible including Song of Solomon, Proverbs and Malachi.

Many students opt to ask a faculty member whom they already know to counsel them on the decision instead of going to the student care office.

That was the case for seminary student Matthew Homan and undergrad Leslie Shafer.

“We knew that we were wanting to move forward in our relationship,” said Shafer, who graduated Saturday. “And before the hype of getting engaged, there were just some things that we wanted to have a third party’s perspective.”

They sought counseling from a campus pastor Homan previously had worked with, said Shafer.

The pair met freshman year through activities between their dorms — called brother-sister dorms — for student recreation.

Out of the students from that dorm pairing, six couples now are either engaged or married, she said.

Lindsi Slabach, who just finished her junior year in nursing, also met her fiancé through brother-sister dorms. But she originally planned not to get married while at school.

“Liberty kind of has a precedent of being a school where everybody meets and marries,” she said. “I didn’t want to play into that stereotype.”

That was before Slabach’s freshman year, when she met Stephen Richardson.

Her sophomore year, the pair played together on an intramural volleyball team. Just before Valentine’s Day 2008, they started dating. Two months ago, Richardson proposed. They plan to get married in December, when she’s a senior.

A lot of students are thinking about marriage while in college because that traditionally is a common age for forming lasting relationships, said Nancy Anderson.

She and her husband Larry Anderson, both psychology professors, teach “Marriage and Family,” an upper-level elective that draws 150 to 200 students in two sections each semester.

While it’s a course common to college psychology departments, Larry Anderson said, LU’s version is open to all students and openly conveys a Christian, pro-marriage viewpoint.

“Marriage is better for men, women and children,” Nancy Anderson said.

The course covers the Biblical basis for marriage, “appreciating gender differences,” the stages of love, and research from both Christian and secular sources, Larry Anderson said.

Ashley Young, a graduate student in counseling, took the course as an undergrad.

A student at Radford University before transferring to Liberty, Young is familiar with weddings — she works at Celebration, a Lynchburg bridal shop.

Young said she has noticed that marriage is stressed not just in coursework, but in other areas of the college, too.

“They put more emphasis on it at Liberty,” she said. “They encourage you to find the right person who has the same morals and values as you.”

Speakers at the college’s three-times-a-week convocation service, which on-campus students are required to attend, frequently talk about marriage.

Most recently, Miss California Carrie Prejean spoke at the school’s final convocation of the year on April 29 after voicing at the Miss USA pageant her belief that marriage should be strictly between a man and a woman.

Campus Pastor Johnnie Moore said beyond guest speakers, faculty and administration at Liberty also frequently speak about marriage at convocation.

“We believe marriage was designed by God … and that he desires that most of his children take part in for most of their life,” he said. “We believe God made heaven and earth, and he made man and woman. And it’s not good for man to be alone.”

Moore himself once was the subject of the conversation as the former “most eligible bachelor” on campus, he said.

The late Rev. Jerry Falwell Sr., founder of the school, would frequently point to Moore’s single status at convocation.

“He always joked with me on stage about finding my spouse,” Moore said. “Dr. Falwell referenced it in that kind of grandfatherly way. He said, ‘OK, guys, there are 5,000 guys here and 5,000 girls here. This is the best I can do.’ ”

Moore, 25, no longer can be teased for being single. In December, he proposed to Liberty graduate Andrea Marcilio. They are planning a wedding in June.

Liberty now has a second generation of students whose parents met on campus decades ago.

“I meet kids almost every day whose parents met here,” Falwell said.

He attended Liberty in the early ’80s and met his spouse-to-be Becki when he was 18 and she was 13.

They started dating when she was 18 and a freshman in Liberty’s school of business, then married when she was 20 and Falwell was 25.

“Looking back, I wish I had gotten married earlier to Becki,” Falwell said. “I tell students I talk to, ‘don’t be afraid to get married.’ I think kids should get married younger than they are.”

Although they haven’t compiled official statistics, several counselors and professors at Liberty said students there get married, on average, younger than those at other universities.

“I would guess that the average age for the Liberty student is a little lower; a year or two younger,” Larry Anderson said. “But that’s just a guess.”

Alysa Lehberger, 19, just finished her sophomore year amid plans to marry her fiancé, also a Liberty student, later this month.

“A lot of people do think it’s too young. I’ve definitely heard that opinion,” she said. “There are a lot of people who go to Liberty to get an education and find the person they’re meant to be with.”

One possible driving force to get married sooner stems from the belief of abstaining from sex before marriage, Falwell said in a group interview with his wife and Mark Hine, vice president for student affairs.

“Students, they strongly believe in no sex outside of marriage,” Falwell said.

Hine continued, “Therefore, marriage becomes a very important topic.”

Nicholas Calcei, a 23-year-old Liberty senior, agreed with that assessment.

“When you’re dating someone, you push for marriage because then you can have guilt-free sex,” he said. “I even told my mom that. It comes down to that, in a way.”

Calcei has been dating another Liberty student for more than two years, and they plan to get engaged soon.

As for the newly wed D’Ambrosios, whose friends are mostly either married or in serious relationships, they are enjoying their first months together as husband and wife.

The first week of his first year at Liberty, Tony D’Ambrosio remembers pointing out the then-Kelly Cook at convocation and telling his friends that he would date her.

Now four years later, the pair are married.

“We’re able to have fun together and graduate together,” said Kelly D’Ambrosio. “It’s exciting to think about our future, and we’re able to look to our future together.”

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Flag Comment Posted by Beau on May 15, 2009 at 11:27 am

FALWELL DIED 2 YEARS AGO TODAY

You can bet that all of this “marry young” talk has to do with Liberty tending to its financial future.  Which would include the next generation of students, then the next, and so on, and so forth.  Believe it.

As far as abstinence goes, I graduated from Liberty and was part of the singing group that traveled with Jerry.  Lots of pre-marital activity was going on at Peaks of Otter for one couple in our group.  Another of our couples was caught by the girl’s father under the Christmas tree during a Christmas break.  This while the guy was giving his testimony everywhere we went concerning how Jesus had saved him from a life of sexual promiscuity.  On the way home from one of our musical tours I woke up on the floor of a ministry bus with a youth ministry staff member’s mouth on my privates (it was night and many of us were sleeping on the bus floor).  I didn’t report it because he was a youth minister and I thought they wouldn’t believe me.  It damaged my faith tremendously.

Theirs is a personality cult whose gluttonous “personality” died two years ago today and they’re on a downward trajectory, Sr.‘s insurance policy notwithstanding.  They’re desperate for new members to keep the donations coming.  The hypocrisy still runs deep, their faith is still ankle-deep, the faithful sheep have so much money and history invested in that ministry they would never think of leaving.  They have drunk the kool-aid, folks, and they’re content to be “babes in Christ” forever, never maturing in the faith to the point where they could figure out that they’re being scammed.

As for that “be ye not unequally yoked together,“ that counselor knew full well that that Scripture was talking not about inter-racial marriage, it was talking about believers marrying non-believers.  Shame on that bigot, that CINO—Christian in name only (like most of them).

One other couple from our group that married young there at Liberty is now divorced.  I guess God wasn’t capable of keeping them together.  I sang at their wedding.  The husband now has a new wife that looks young enough to be his daughter.

I could vomit.

Flag Comment Posted by Gordie on May 11, 2009 at 10:01 am

Anyone having sex only for procreation, lays the ground work for highly frustrated people, who look for sex in other places.

Flag Comment Posted by Arthur Pewty on May 11, 2009 at 4:32 am

Why, thank you tink.  But, commonsenseplz person has me confused.  I need more of an explanation of the concept of “saving”.  What is to be gained?
  Obviously, if you think that sex is ONLY for procreation it would make sense not to have any until you have established a functional household.  But you should have no problem declaring that as your reason.  If you think sex is like a Christmas present and opening it before December 25th will spoil the surprise you should also have no qualms about admitting that too.  It’s the use of the word “saving” that confuses me. 
  Sex is a very big part of marriage.  Peoples sex drives and needs can differ wildly.  An enormous number of divorces are caused by simple sexual incompatibility.  It’s just common sense not to dive into a pool until you know how deep it is.  Somewhat bizarre to claim some kind of moral superiority because you chose to “save” the termite inspection until after you have committed to buying the house. 
  I strongly suspect that this is just Old Testament stuff.  Where it was OK to have your bride stoned to death if she turned out not to have “saved” herself.  But, I still don’t get it.  Millions of weddings take place where the young couple don’t even get to see each others faces before the wedding ceremony has taken place.  I confess, I don’t get that either.
  In the end some powerful and wise old sayings come to my mind.  “Buyer beware” would be one.  “Don’t buy a pig in a poke” would be another. 
 
  Quite frankly, good advice can be found in the oddest places.  Scripture too.  Some of the best I ever heard came over the radio.  A guy who called himself “Meatloaf” sang a song called “Paradise” by the dashboard light.  The relevant scripture went like this.

I couldn’t take it any longer
Lord I was crazed
And then this feeling came up on me
Like a tidal wave
I started swearing to my god and on my mothers grave
That I would love you till the end of time!

So now I’m praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive
Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you
I don’t think that I can really survive
I’ll never break my promise or forget my vow
But god only knows that I could do it right now
I’m praying for the end of time
It’s all that I can do
Praying for the end of time, so I can end my time with you!

Flag Comment Posted by tink on May 10, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Arthur, I have to comment - for some reason, that is one of the sweetest stories I’ve ever heard smile

Flag Comment Posted by commonsenseplz on May 10, 2009 at 8:11 pm

Oh the nerve of people who have the same religion and interests abstaining before marriage. The nerve of these people saving themselves for their spouse. What horrible cult losers. What is this world coming to?!?

Flag Comment Posted by Arthur Pewty on May 10, 2009 at 7:46 pm

You know Alice, this isn’t really that different than marriages that take place in Hindu cities and villages all over india.  They are “arranged” to suit religion, cast and politics.  Instead of matchmakers listing the available we have ministers and religious prerequisites.
  I was, well, drunk when I met my wife.  It was at a weekend party.  I asked two young ladies out for a date the next weekend and they both accepted.  On monday morning when I sobered up I only had one telephone number.  Had no idea whose it was.  So I called to confirm.  It didn’t help, but I got the address to pick up who ever it turned out to be.
  That was 43 years ago and we have been happily married for 40.  We had nothing in common, least of all religion.  We were just crazy, cuckoo about each other.  Still are.
  There are no magic formulas other than it ain’t a 50/50 deal.  It’s a 100/100 deal.

Flag Comment Posted by Alice on May 10, 2009 at 7:11 pm

Did the writer come up with the idea for the article Did LU administration?  Or was it the N&A editor’s?
If it was the editor’s then for sure LU administration is being used big time to sell newspapers.  Generally speaking,  marriage between college students is not news worthy today any more than it was fifty years ago.

The article seems to smack of the in bred element re the fundamentalist life style….not unlike that of the Mormons or Jewish faith.  That, in itself, is not unusual:  it suggests that those of like minds enjoy fellowship with each other…. innocent enough.

However when coupled with the arch conservative environment that encourages students to move their voter registration from their hometowns to the city it reminds me of THE STEPFORD WIVES…and that is more than a tad weird.

So Im taking the bait here….

Is there any allowance - tolerance for independent thinking at this “institution” of higher learning?

Flag Comment Posted by packer2dogs on May 10, 2009 at 6:00 pm

I am slowly learning to turn off my naivte. While I don’t think the marriage push at LU is about world domination, I do get weird “cult” vibes, especially when 85% of women and 75% of men feel the pressure to marry. And especially when Falwell Jr. says he wishes he had married earlier. In essence, he and they promote marriage among teenagers. The created culture is one where a population of Christians, almost all fundamentalist, will continue to grow. All with this idea that LU is the best place to fund a person of like moral values. Trust me, that ain’t enough to make a good marriage.

Young people at 18 through 22 are still forming their identities. While they can make their own decisions, often those decisions are made without understanding the motivations behind them. Simple subliminal or subconscious messages can have major impacts. That’s why I get the cult vibe…if the article depicts what really happens, sounds just like that.

God’s will in any shape or form. And, I find it sad that seeking a spouse could trump what any creator being my really want all because of interpretations of scripture.

Flag Comment Posted by TJackson57 on May 10, 2009 at 2:43 pm

Wow. It didn’t take long for the libs to Godwin this thread.

BTW: The divorce rate is not 50%.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/divorce.htm

http://www.divorcereform.org/nyt05.html

Flag Comment Posted by SCO on May 10, 2009 at 2:11 pm

In response to the post by (tink)

I agree with the user in that the way the article is written does make some people quoted as part of Liberty’s student population and administration look bad. However, I think that as readers we may be taking the comments a little out of context, because of how poorly they are presented by the newspaper editor.
I think we should keep in mind that the higher than normal push toward marriage by the university is not designed to “dominate the world,“ with like minded people. Academic studies and personal experience have taught many people here in Lynchburg and throughout the world that families conceived by married men and women are more financially and socially stable. I think the aforementioned is the primary objective, rather than the conspiracy theories often suggested by the people contributing to the N&A blog.

Posted by ( tink ) on May 10, 2009 at 1:10 am

Wow - this article makes Liberty look so bad, it’s pathetic. The comments made by some students (such as how it comes down to having guilt-free sex) as well as Mr. Falwell are just sad. I usually have a lot of respect for Mr. Falwell, and I do not usually have any qualms about Liberty University, but I am appalled that this article is seemingly written from a perspective that is trying to support this position. I wonder how guilty the students are made to feel if they choose to marry someone outside of the Liberty bubble.

I really want to see other people’s comments, however. I want to know if I’m in the minority in this

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