Lynchburg rally organizers say public safety pay shouldn’t get cut
A downtown rally will be held next week to show support for public safety officers slated to take an across-the-board pay cut in the new fiscal year that starts this summer.
The rally will take place on the same day City Council is scheduled to grant final approval to the new budget. The budget, in its current form, imposes a 3 percent pay cut on all city employees.
Recently, it’s been suggested the public safety division — which consists of police, fire and emergency dispatchers — should be exempt from those salary reductions given the nature and significance of their jobs. Rally organizers hope to drive that message home to council and, perhaps, persuade members to alter the budget before it goes through.
“We want to open up the dialogue and see City Council go back to the drawing board and find creative ways to balance the budget without cutting salaries,” said Leecy Fink, a rally organizer and wife of a 12-year Lynchburg Police Department veteran.
“We don’t want them to make a hasty decision and approve the budget, then regret it later,” she added, noting a pay cut would damage morale and cause people to flee to higher-paying jobs elsewhere, leaving the public safety forces depleted.
It’s uncertain if City Council could be convinced to postpone the final budget vote this late in the process. Last week, Councilman Jeff Helgeson proposed restoring full pay for police officers by reducing the city contribution to the schools.
He cited an LPD memo that reported a 7.4 percent rise in violent crime and a 19.4 percent turnover rate among officers over the past two years.
The same report said a survey of 28 Virginia communities, including Lynchburg, found the Hill City was the only one planning to cut pay for public safety employees.
Helgeson’s motion was criticized by the rest of council and died due to lack of a second. One of the most common objections dealt with the message it would send to cut pay for some employees while protecting others.
Opposing council members also said the pay cuts were a difficult but necessary step given the economic troubles the city faces. Full employee pay could not be restored without making significant cuts elsewhere in the budget, they argue, including possible layoffs.
Public safety officers themselves offered conflicting views on how council should respond to the salary concerns. All agreed the pay cut should be reversed if possible, but not necessarily if it meant taking from other departments or only exempting public safety.
“I hate to take any money from one organization and give it to another,” said Officer Doug Childress, a police officer with 28 years experience and current president of the local chapter of the Virginia Police Benevolent Association.
Childress felt strongly about the need to restore public safety salaries, noting the LPD already has some of the lowest pay rates in the state, according to the same staff memo discussed earlier by council.
He said he felt the city needed to look for “new ideas” and revisit some of the major capital projects it was spending on, a suggestion that’s been made in the past.
But Childress stopped short of saying the money ought to be taken from the school budget. “If there’s excess in their budget, that should be looked at,” he said. “But if this is something our school teachers need, I don’t want to be the one to stand up and say we’re going to take that away from you.”
The Blue Ridge chapter of the Virginia Police Benevolent Association is supporting next week’s rally, as is the Lynchburg Fire Fighters Association.
Fire Chief Brad Ferguson said he was aware of the rally and told his employees they were free to attend, but he did not directly align himself with the gathering’s mission.
“I’m in support in that I’d like to see them put the pay back in,” he said. “But I think they need to do it for all city employees. I don’t think we should separate ourselves. It will damage morale (in other departments).”
Turnover has been a more severe issue for the police department and emergency communications center than the fire department. Police Chief Parks Snead said two officers recently announced plans to take other jobs, citing in part the department’s uncompetitive salaries.
Supervisors are also reporting as many as 18 others are considering leaving if the pay cut goes through. Snead said the idea of such an exodus “disturbs me greatly” and added that for an organization the size of the LPD, the loss of 10 officers would be a “public safety crisis.”
The pay cut is an unusual measure and comes on the heels of a two-and-a-half-day unpaid furlough for all city employees.
Fink, one of the rally organizers, said that event has drawn, not only city employees and their families, but also regular community members who are concerned about what’s happening.
“These are people who feel strongly that the impact of cutting public safety salaries will be greater than the impact of cutting other employees’ salaries,” she said. “… A community is built first on safety. People won’t send their children to your schools or start a business or move to your community unless it’s a safe community.”
The rally will begin at noon Tuesday, May 26, at the foot of Monument Terrace. It will continue until City Council begins its regular business meeting that day at 5 p.m.
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Poet, You seem to have a strong dis-taste for police and fire, you attempt to degrade the profession by saying that their professions are #5 and #6 while your profession of truck driving is #3 only the dangerous job list. I stated that police and fire professions are dangerous jobs and different from other city jobs. Not even you can argue with that. You have made this to be about my personal beliefs and yours. They are obviously different and we are not going to agree. You said we all are having hard times and thats true, but would you stand up for yourself and your fellow drivers when they attempt to take your money? I recall when diesel was around $4 gallon the truckers across America proposed a strike. I believe several truckers actually stopped on the routes to protest the price gauging. The difference is the police and fire can’t strike or protest, they must work in this state. I encourage you to see their side of the story and whats going on in City Government before you attempt to judge them. Maybe even you can learn something!
Jim, Your problem is I took your entire argement about being special and privledged while the rest of us are cowering in corners, and completely dismantled it.
You are loathed to face the fact that you’re no more worthy of special concideration than the rest of us.
So your fall back position is to put up these straw man silly argements, but it does nothing but make you look like a fool. You’re doing nothing to further your cause. In fact your attitude, false claims and red herrings not only prove what I said, but destroy any credibility you might once have had.
If you are a police officer, continuing to make a fool of yourself only serves to cheapen and bring shame on the entire dept.
Now if you think that’s comedy and you are a police officer, it just serves as a sad commentary as to what you are and should put the community on alert about the kind of people LPD hires.
I’ve made my point, you’ve solidified it. No need for me to continue to participate in your embarrasing the dept by your behavior. After all, I have a lot of friends both fire fighters and police officers and they deserve better than this conversation.
I leave you to your own self serving devices and delusions of granduer.
Yes you are correct, I humble stand corrected. Guess I was in a hurry to post as I had to get ready for work. My poor math skills notwithstanding, I still think it stinks for anyone to be hired at a certain rate and after learning to live withing that means being told your gonna get paid less for doing the same job.
Poet, you my dear freind are down right hilarous, give up the trucking industry and go in to stand up comedy, you could make so much money. While doing some research I found your documentation of why truck driving is so dangerous. Yes truck driving is dangerous, but do not attempt to tell us its from terrorist plotting against your cargo. The fact are that 27 truckers die for every 100,000 drivers. 95% come from vehicle crashes and 85% of those are deemed driver error on the part of the truck driver. And while your boasting about you trucking explain to us common folks why the same research showed Alaskan Crab Fishermen as #1? No mention of our armed services serving overseas in combat situations. According to your own statemens your #3. Guess the public service of our military men and women don’t add up to you either!
I think that if someone told you to check your math you should be able find an error like that. Of course, I’m aware it wasn’t enough but as I stated, I was being a smart—-. I’m not a teacher but I was a good student. My undergraduate degree was the best eight years of my life.
I think you need to spell it out jimm,
Ckid, 3% of $30,000 is $900 not $3000,
If their pay is 30k it would be 29,100, not 27,000.
Hope you aren’t a teacher!
Now that I’m through being a smart—- ckid, the fact that the policemen’s wives are setting up this rally looks kind of bad. If you don’t like working here then move along, you weren’t drafted.
No one’s pay should have been cut until all avenues had been exhausted but if you cut one pay you cut them all, no exceptions.
ckid, work on your math skills and check back.
Did he ever say he was a LEO or is that just an assumption?
I can understand about getting your pay reduced by 3%. They hired these folks at, let’s just say for a numbers sake, $30,000 per year. Now, your going back on that and telling them now you’re only getting $27,000.
Yeah, I can understand being upset. Who wouldn’t. Sure folks have lost their jobs and all income and they wish all they lost was 3%, however, how many of those worked for small business?
I can also understand not getting pay raises, delayed promotions, no COLA increases and so forth. But to cut their pay hurts. No matter if you drive a truck, teach, or whatever. Are there those who wish they could make $27,000? Sure, now cut them 3% and ask them how happy they’d be.
There is nothing wrong with attending or organizing a rally. It is one of our rights as American citizens.
vttova, goodcrap, what Jim has clearly demonstrated is the problem that comes from a deep seated belief in self importance and entitlement. As in most cases it presents itself in the fashion of all mouth and no justification coupled with blind arrogance.
He set the parameters of the conversation. All I did was counter his points of contention with equal or more dangerous job situations endured by many other people, yet none of these people feel entitled to be held in higher esteem than everyone else.
goodcrap, you are spot on in saying this guy’s mentality is something to be afraid of. If he can go from one post to the other in complete denial of all his previous posts, which is a clear indication of his thinking process, and deteriorate into totally irrational nonsense, just what kind of person is he to be in a position to make life changing decisions on the street?
This guy has problems far worse than a pay cut.
That is if he is a police officer. If not, its still the same problems.
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