LU defends decision to close Plaza
Liberty University is standing by its decision to deny parking for Wednesday night’s Obama event, a move that’s drawing criticism from local Democrats.
City officials, meanwhile, are looking to Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign to pay for a last-minute shuttle service established to get attendants from City Stadium to the rally at E.C. Glass High School.
The city stepped in after learning Wednesday morning LU would not allow event parking at The Plaza shopping center.
On Thursday, Liberty officials said they did make an offer to supply the Obama campaign with paid — not free — parking at the shopping center, which is owned by the university.
No reply was received, according to administrators.
LU Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. said that after initially declining to allow parking, the school was asked by the Secret Service to reconsider. Liberty then agreed to rent parking to the campaign at fair-market value, which it determined was between $5 and $10 per space.
“We said we would try to clear it with (the businesses in The Plaza) and see what was available,” Falwell said. “… We tried to accommodate them.”
LU, a registered 501(c)(3), said its tax-exempt status prohibits it from providing free parking to a political rally. Federal law bars exempt groups from contributing to political campaigns either directly or indirectly, according to the Internal Revenue Service’s Web site.
A spokesman for the IRS declined to discuss what would or would not constitute a violation of those rules, saying such decisions must be made on a case-by-case basis.
Falwell said supplying free parking would have amounted to donating the cost of the space to the Obama campaign, in violation of federal tax code.
LU has been criticized by some, particularly among Obama supporters, for closing off access to The Plaza.
The chairman of the local Democratic Party, John Lawrence, said Thursday the school was “making up excuses” to avoid helping a Democratic candidate.
“They did it to spite the Obama campaign,” he said.
Falwell said the university would have taken the same action with any public event, political or otherwise, that sought to use its property without permission.
“It doesn’t surprise me people are upset, but they should be upset with the Obama campaign for not working it out beforehand,” he said.
Organizers of Obama’s appearance at E.C. Glass initially directed ticket holders to park at The Plaza without the school’s knowledge.
Falwell said he only learned of the situation through television reports the night before.
A campaign spokesman operating out of Richmond confirmed Thursday that no one sought the school’s permission before announcing the arrangements.
“My understanding is some of our staff thought it was public parking,” said Kevin Griffis. “Once we were told it was not public, we told people not to park there.”
Griffis also said he didn’t believe the campaign was given the option of paid parking, but added such events usually rely on free, public spaces.
It was not immediately clear if LU’s offer was relayed to Obama officials. LU provided the name of the Secret Service agent it spoke with. He in turn said only that the agency does not pay for parking.
Further questions were referred to the agency’s Richmond office, which had already closed for the day as it was after business hours.
The Obama camp may still end up paying for at least a portion of last night’s parking costs.
The city intends to send them a bill for a shuttle service it quickly established after learning there would be no Plaza parking.
The city encouraged rally attendants to park at City Stadium, where six school buses awaited to ferry them to E.C. Glass and back. Officials said they were concerned a dearth of parking would create confusion and lead to a possible public safety hazard.
The cost of the shuttle service was not immediately known, but City Manager Kimball Payne said on Thursday that the city did expect the campaign to pay for it.
“The Obama campaign was told yesterday it would be sent a bill,” Payne said. “They created this situation. They coordinated it. … We don’t feel it was our responsibility to manage the parking.”
The city does not plan to seek reimbursement for other support services provided, including the presence of more than 40 local police officers.
Payne described these other forms of assistance as “customary” support that would be provided to any visiting dignitary.
“If John McCain comes, we’ll do the same for him,” he said.
The total cost to the city for the Obama event is not yet known, but will be compiled. Payne predicted it wouldn’t exceed five figures.
Griffis, of the Obama campaign, was not aware of any pending bill, but said he imagined if the city did provide parking it was in an effort to support a positive event in the community.
“Obviously, it did bring a lot of positive attention to Lynchburg,” he said of the rally, which was attended by more than 2,000 people.
Payne said while the campaign has not expressly agreed to pay, he expected it would.
“I’m assuming they’re honorable people,” he said.
Reader Reactions
Cubiccubist: “People in glass houses should not throw stones.“
scrivsand, No they haven’t been given permission to park there. They have tried numerous times to get the parishioners not to park there and the people don’t listen. Just take the time and go ask the managers at Toys R Is if they have ever been asked if parishioners can park there or if they have ever been given permission. They will tell you no. I suggest that people go around the community of the Old Thomas Road Church. Several of the streets in that area have signs on them requiring that people have decals to be able to park there. The parishioners at that time had no concern and blocked driveways, had no concern they were keeping a person from parking in front of their home. Some even had the gall to park in people’s driveways. This whole issue is only a problem because so many people treat the Parking Lot as if it belongs to TRBC. If they used the upper part of the parking lot, I am sure the stores wouldn’t mind. But when they take over the whole parking lot and regular customers can’t get in, then I believe they have a reason to get upset. Like I said, talk to their staff. I have. I kind of hope that their corporate offices decide to open a store elsewhere in town. They never had any problems before TRBC moved across the street. Now they are losing money and having to cut hours. No matter what excuses some of these people make, their is no excuse for that.
pocketpair
There was no spewing of hatred. It’s simply people in this town getting fed up with a Church, University and their parishioner & students who think they can do as they please. And you say it didn’t seem like a problem? The store opens at 10 am! That means that when you and your fellow parishioners flood the parking lot, that many customers can not get in to shop. When that happens the store loses money. When that happens employees hours must be cut. If their hours are cut that means they have less money to spend. And that means fewer tax dollars coming in to the city and state which your church doesn’t pay in the first place. You all have no right to park there in the first place so don’t make excuses to make yourself feel better about it. It’s Toy R Us property, Not TRBC> As for the manager asking people to stop protesting. She has to do that because the company can not afford the bad press. I am sure they wish this whole issue never came before the press, but it did. But don’t think for a moment that she told them not to protest because they want TRBC in their parking lot. Yeah I may be old and cranky, but at least I don’t go to a church that teaches it’s parishioners it’s ok to be a bigot and hurt others. A church that seems to think they can do what they want. Funny but this old crank is very at home at his church where the members respect their neighbors.
myxrds i know you are lying if you say there was that many open spaces in the parkit lot at 11am. Even during the summer when the students are there all aperking spaces at the upper part of the lot are taken already. the only time you find any there is when people who have attended the early service and Sunday school have left. But you should never assume you can park in a business parking lot unless you are planning to shop there. I don’t think they mind you parking there if you come in to shop. But most don’t and shouldn’t be parking there in the first place
CitizenX this whole issue came up because of the hypocrisy of the whole issue of parking in the firat place. And thank God it did. It seems that the whole problem may have been solved. It’s just that both TRBC & Liberty need to learn to live with their neighbors rather than trying rul over them. Maybe if they acted like most other churches and schools in town, there would never have been a problem.
,,did anyone read the editorial intodays paper,,it seams that the SS contacted lu ,,to rent plaza and lu said yea for 10.00 a car,,and OBAMA i guess to save money went with city parking plan,,?? was that cheaper for the demo,,and isnt 10 a bit steep !!
Yes, pocketpair. My mistake. Misunderstood where u were going. Shalom brother.
myxrds: I was just fooling to show how silly other peoples comments were. ![]()
Just for fun. This is from my bank statement.
PURCHASE CNS TOYS R US 8623 06/01
LYNCHBURG VA 1016I212778
06/01 is a Sunday. I wish there was a time printed there as well.
Anyway, enough of this. I think it’s time to move on. I m sure all of us have better things to do in life, other than bickering about parking etc.
Have a great week.
P/s My apologies to PocketPair. My previous blog was not supposed to be directed at you. Typo error.
Hey pocketpair,
May I remind u the rules of blogging in this space.
# Please avoid offensive, vulgar, or hateful language.
# Respect others.
I m not disputing your right to blog here but if you wish to go round calling others names etc, where’s the respect?
Q. Was WSET there every Sun?
I know this is probably too much to ask, but I ll ask anyway. Be consistent.
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