Smoking ban advances
Published: February 6, 2009
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The Republican-controlled House of Delegates—the last barrier to a further clampdown on smoking in public—could vote as early as Monday to ban lighting up in restaurants and bars across a state built in part on the riches of tobacco.
Heralded by a bipartisan group of lawmakers as an advancement for public health, the proposed smoking prohibition—already favored by the Virginia Senate—would represent an expansion of restrictions enacted more than a decade ago that were written largely by tobacco interests.
The new rules, however, and their narrow limitations quickly drew fire from health advocates as weak and from restaurateurs as government meddling in the marketplace.
“This is a political issue, not a health issue,“ said Thomas Lisk, a lawyer-lobbyist for the Virginia Hospitality and Travel Association.
The prohibition would make exceptions for private clubs and restaurants with a designated smoking room that is physically separated and independently ventilated from non-smoking dining areas. It also would exclude any permanent outdoor patio area of a restaurant, any portion of a restaurant used just for private functions, and streetside mobile food stands.
Violators would be subject to a fine of no more than $25.
The new restrictions would be a breakthrough for Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, a Democrat who unsuccessfully has sought additional regulations on smoking in public since he took office in 2006.
For Speaker William J. Howell, R-Stafford, whose House is depicted by opponents as obstructionist, the measure could prove a vote-getter this fall for imperiled GOP delegates in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads.
Kaine said, “This is a big step forward for public health in an environment where secondhand smoke effects concentrate and really cause serious health problems.“
Turning its back on the wealthy cigarette and tourism lobbies, the House Republican Caucus had come under pressure to appear in step with increasingly Democratic suburban voters. Roughly half of the GOP caucus signaled in a secret vote that it favored restrictions on smoking.
Those votes, paired with the bulk of House Democrats, could ensure passage.
In the course of a day, Howell and Kaine announced they had forged a compromise on a smoking ban, and by the afternoon, House Bill 1703 was approved 16-6 by a House General Laws Committee traditionally hostile to efforts to halt smoking in eateries.
In front of the panel, doctors pleaded for its passing; a restaurant owner from Hampton Roads called for its demise; the restaurant lobby threatened closures; and groups that have been pushing for a ban—the American Lung Association, among them—expressed grave concerns that it didn’t go far enough.
Some of those concerns were eased by amendments requiring that smoky air cannot be redistributed to the nonsmoking section, and that people not be forced to walk through the smoking area to get to the nonsmoking room.
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High-dollar restaurants and chains may be able to meet all the stipulations, but new walls and air systems could push mom-and-pop shops out of business, critics argue.
Others argue that the one change would save lives. Secondhand smoke is responsible for an estimated 1,700 deaths per year, according to the Virginia Department of Health. In addition, the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids estimates the commonwealth spends $113 million a year on health-care expenditures related to exposure to secondhand smoke.
A separate assault on tobacco—Kaine’s proposal to double the cigarette tax to pay for health care—has been thwarted, led by Henrico County-based cigarette manufacturer Philip Morris USA.
The company also opposes the restrictions on smoking. David Sutton, a Philip Morris spokesman, said every restaurant in Virginia currently has the right to limit smoking on its own without a government mandate.
“While this bill attempts to provide a compromise, we believe that some of the provisions go too far,“ he said.
“This bill would impose significant costs in a very difficult economy on business owners that would like to accommodate smokers in their establishments.“
Sutton declined to comment on the extent to which Philip Morris USA was involved in discussions over a compromise on the indoor-smoking issue.
“On this issue and all the others that are relevant to the company . . . we continue to make our views known to elected officials,“ he said. “It is something we want to continue to talk about.“
Howell said he thinks a compromise was forged this year because “both sides were willing to yield.“ In addition, state legislators, in both chambers and on both sides of the aisle, proposed 14 smoking-ban bills this year, according to Kaine’s office.
When asked yesterday if it had something to do with this being an election year—all 100 seats in the House are up for election—Howell gave a drawn-out “no.“
“The compromise strikes a fair balance between the rights of smokers who choose to enjoy a legal product and the rights of other individuals who want to enjoy a smoke-free environment when eating at a restaurant,“ Howell said.
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Twenty-three other states, including Maryland, have passed bans on smoking indoors at bars and restaurants, as have the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.
In Virginia, smoking was banned in all state buildings and vehicles under an executive order signed in 2006 by Kaine.
Outside Capitol Square, the debate among politicians caught the attention of smokers and nonsmokers.
“If it bothered me I would sit someplace else,“ said nonsmoker Tommy Hicks, a defender of smokers’ rights. “It’s a conscious decision I make.“
Sitting at the bar at Richbrau Brewing Co., Hicks said of Kaine, “When he cuts down on emissions from vehicles and other stuff killing us, then he can tell us not to smoke.“
Down the bar from Hicks, smoker Heather Fletcher was surprised to hear about the restrictions.
“I think that it will help me quit,“ she said. “We’re conscious of other people. We don’t smoke if it bothers people.“
Among some of the Republican Party’s key conservative allies, there was dismay—a feeling that the GOP is surrendering to a big-government impulse.
“The activists [Howell] will depend on this fall, many of whom are members of groups like ours, will not be pleased that he has caved,“ said Ben Marchi of Americans for Prosperity.
Reader Reactions
You should be more concerend with the food you are shoveling into your greasy gob holes in these restaurants than breathing some second hand smoke for an hour. Trust me it’s worse for you and your kids. I think they should let people smoke in a bar and keep it out of the actual restaurant side.
And if you are so friggin concerned about your health why not get car emmisson testing here?? HUH??? You’ll suck a dirty tailpipes air but you cry about second hand smoke.
I don’t smoke so I don’t really give a mouse fart. But I do pay taxes and some of that goes not only to smokers but to fat slobs that want to eat junk all their lives…when I gotta sit at my meal and watch some slob and their fat brat eat like pigs….who is gonna help me. My eyes can’t unsee that! Gross
And as a side note one of the leading causes of asthma ( along with environment) is DIET!!!
My son has asthma and I fully support the ban in restaurants. Right not we only patronize smoke free anyways. I have lived in other states when these changes have been made and after making a stink about it for a month or two the smokers got used to it and public places were much more pleasant for those who weren’t planning on smoking(because when a room is full of smoke everyone is smoking). Places will smell better and will be safer for our children. Smoking in an area goes down when kids aren’t exposed to it everywhere. I have never smoked a cigarette in my life….I should be allowed to make that decision-not the person chain smoking in the restaurant next to me. Gross.
Mack -
“Smoking” and “No Smoking” sections don’t work very well.
It’s like having “Pee-ing” and “No Pee-ing” sections of a public swimming pool.
There are no smoking sections and smoking sections. I do think that it should be left up to the resturaunt owners. Government stay out of the resturant bus.
The only reason government does any of this is the insurance companies. They have become major financial powers and as such, the old golden rule applies. The one with the gold makes the rules.
We as a society have decided that we no longer want to assume ANY responsibility. Let someone else pay for all my mistakes. I told my kids when they were growing up, you want freedom? Assume responsibility. The more responsible you are for yourself, the more choices become open to you. You don’t want someone telling you where to smoke? Don’t take up health insurance. In time with enough people off of health insurance, medical cost will have to fall. We are not in the middle of a health insurance crisis, we are in the middle of a health services crisis.
The most our government should be involved with smoking, seat belts, marijuana, assisted suicides for folks with painful death sentences is a word in the media. Nothing more. It’s time to end victimless criminal statutes. We as a society should be regulating ourselves. If we dislike smoking so much, then don’t patronize eateries that allow it. We as a society have the power to collectively outcast anyone for their behavior, or at least make the birds of a feather all fly together.
Everytime the government makes a new law, they take away your rights. And if they can use a past example, they can justify another law. One day you WILL see a law about fat kids eating fast food.
One day you will see open state sanctioned gay marriage. Why? Because it’s a growing section of the population with a growing chunk of money. Someone will have to legislate them. If you say that they can exist, that’s the first step in the door to controlling it, and capitalizing on the situation.
No I don’t think it’s oaky for parents of overweight children to continue to allow their kids to eat junk food. I think that if parents are seen with a overweight, obese child standing in line at a McDonald’s etc. getting their kid these disgusting foods they should be charged with child neglect. It is absoultely digusting to see 10 year old kids have the gut hanging over their pants. Parents that allow their children to eat like that should defiently be criminally charged.
VA_Jen -
The question is not “Have other states done it?“ Sure they have.
The question is not “Will it hurt business?“ Of course not.
The question is not “Does secondhand smoke do some harm?“ Probably.
Saying that “Other states do it” is no comfort. 23 states USED to have laws preventing blacks from eating in these restaurants - that doesn’t make it right.
The question is “Since we the people can handle this ourselves (like not going in Macadoos but going somewhere else instead) why is it the government’s business?“
Next question - When the government decides that you should NOT be eating the Applebee’s hot crab asparagus dip because it is loaded with saturated fat and cholesterol, and your eating it affects ME because I don’t want to be paying for your Medicare bills when your arteries clog up, will you be OK with government banning hot crab asparagus dip?
Don’t believe it will never happen. My parents would never have believed we’d have been debating, in our lifetime, whether two men can be legally married.
23 other states have passed this ban. Business’ still survive and they will when Virginia finally passes their own anti-smoking bill. Smokers can’t smoke in government buildings, nor in most office buildings, and somehow they get by. If they can get through an 8-9 hour work day and find a way to get their smoke breaks, they will adapt to not smoking during meals. I don’t know why more restaurants don’t do this already, maybe they are too afraid. But I cannot wait for the ban to go into effect. My family & I are tired of going into a place like Macado’s and walking out smelling like smoke. Or going to Logan’s and not being able to go to the bathroom because it’s deep in the bar area and the smell chokes us. I will do a dance the day this law passes.
Wake up - it’s the 21st century. It’s not the 50s anymore where doctors on TV promoted “healthy” cigarettes. Those of you who smoke, get used to more & more limiting of your “right” to smoke around others.
Well, I wouldn’t have quite said it like that, but that’s the general idea.
Since we want a nanny gov, let’s ban everything harmful. Everybody has to ride a bike to work, outlaw section 8 housing since drugs and crimes are rampant in these areas, no alchol period, no knives or guns on a college campus No prescription drugs to anyone regardless of need, no hairspray since it can be a fire hazard. Not sure if I am missing anything, so feel free to add. Bottom line is simple, if you want the gov to control what you do not like, move to an Islamic country or China. A free society should not be regulated by idiots like Kaine or other politicians that could not find their backside with the both hands with the lights on. If you are not quailified to work in the private sector, be a politician.
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